8.01.2005

 

Sex Offender GPS Tracking

States Move on Sex Offender GPS Tracking

From the article:Seems reasonable with sex offenders. What if we did it with everyone all the time? See The end of anonymity.

Comments:
I am glad about this technology not because it will let me keep my daughter safe from the bad people.

I am glad about this technology because it will force a long overdue discussion on America: How will we reintroduce citizens who are in the bad situation of having commit a crime, back into society?

If we get in the habit of effectively making once-criminals wear bright red neon jackets that read "this person once commit a crime!" everywhere they go, for the rest of their life, then there will be two crimes commited, not just one: On the one part, the original crime, on the other part, the disproportionate response from society, and the reluctance to ever forgive and forget.
 
Sex offenders are not the only ones being tagged. Foreign visitors too:
Homeland Security radio-tags foreign visitors
 
It seems impossible to "forget" criminals. It seems like they have a very hard time ending their behavior. This page says, "Of the 272,111 persons released from prisons in 15 States in 1994, an estimated 67.5% were rearrested for a felony or serious misdemeanor within 3 years, 46.9% were reconvicted, and 25.4% resentenced to prison for a new crime. The 272,111 offenders discharged in 1994 accounted for nearly 4,877,000 arrest charges over their recorded careers." [Source: U.S. Department of Justice · Office of Justice Programs] Should all criminals be tagged?
 
There appears to be a problem with forgive and forget in the case of sex offenders. There are a tremendous number of repeat offenses. This indicates that this could be a mental health problem that is not cured by prison. Our society needs to allow these people back into society after there jail time is served, but it seems foolish not to keep an eye on them.
 
I am all for such a tracking system as long as the tracking device is descrete. There is no use in stigmatizing ex-cons that truely mean to change their lives and not commit a crime again.
 
If some guy gets drunk and pees in public, that's a sex offender.
 
If some guy gets drunk and pees in public, that's a sex offender.

Maybe he shouldn't get drunk and pee in public then. :)

I mean if he's so drunk to do that, then what else will he do around your 8-year old daughter? (or whoever else is around)
 
"It seems like they have a very hard time ending their behavior."

That's because of the way we treat them in prison. In other countries, those statistics don't hold. We are notoriously bad. The department of Corrections isn't into corrections.
 
My daughter is 4, thank you very much. Many people who have been drunk and peed in public have changed. You are making mistakes impossible. This is very dangerous for society. Your naivity is showing, and I feel more confident in my judgement: This technology will force a long overdue discussion on America.
 
I get drunk and pee in public, no im not proud of that,( you got to go when you got to go you know what i mean :) ) but if you think peeing in public will lead to doing anything to your 8 year old daughter, you must be on crack! further more, you must also be on crack if you want to let sex offenders back into the public without marking them as sex offenders. these are criminals and not innocent people. Criminals are suppose to be treated as criminals. they bring misery and suffering to our society. If it was up to me, I would never let these type of people out of jail in the first place.
PS: when i say "you are on crack" it is slang for I do not agree with you. so dont be offended
 
>>If some guy gets drunk and pees in public, that's a sex offender.

Maybe he shouldn't get drunk and pee in public then. :) <<

This is a law that would not go over well in Japan or Germany.

The locals are known to urinate in public at the drop of a hat (alright, that's an exaggeration...)
 
"Criminals are suppose to be treated as criminals. they bring misery and suffering to our society. If it was up to me, I would never let these type of people out of jail in the first place."

Well, fortunately it is not up to you; It is up to everybody. It is fortunate that there are people who do not share your fears, phobias, and ignorance.

The alleged job of the Department of Corrections is to help correct people. The job of prison is three-fold: To deter, to detain, and to reform. (Note that revenge is not one of the jobs of prison.) That is: To discourage crime, to keep people from harming by detaining them, and then to correct the person.

If a society refuses to forgive a person who has paid their dues, and help them to rejoin society as a citizen of equal standing, then what is that person supposed to think? What is that person supposed to do? That person will commit a more severe crime, to punish society for their unfair treatment.

If you believe that just because you were once a victim, that you are capable of doing no wrong, and that you can do anything you like to another person: That is wrong. Now you are bringing misery and suffering to society. Treat others like you would like to be treated, and forgive so that you can be forgiven.

You dream of living on your own, behind a gated wall. "If I don't do anything wrong to other people, I don't see what I owe to other people. If someone harms us in any way, then we can punish them for life." What a shameful attitude. You are just being selfish, and calling it self defence and morality.
 
"If a society refuses to forgive a person who has paid their dues"

Ok, you can forgive a thief and people that commit other small crimes, but how do you forgive a sex offender? These people will never again be citizens of equal standing because they are not equal anymore and never will be.

No Im not a victim of anything, I am not trying to live behind a gated wall, I know I am not perfect. But it seems like you are trying to say that its "ok" to commit such a crime because then you can be treated and released back on to the streets.

If you let these people know that they will spend the rest of their lives in a prison cell, they will think twice before doing something stupid.

"that you are capable of doing no wrong, and that you can do anything you like to another person: That is wrong. Now you are bringing misery and suffering to society. "

No, Im bringing misery and suffering to the criminals and helping the society by eliminating crime.
 
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Most sex offenders have families, friends, relatives, and children. Some are required to register for much lesser crimes of flashing, incest, prostitution, and a host of other offences.

Contrary to the media’s torch, grouping all registered sex offenders as dangerous. Even the DOJ in a report states American politicians have lied.
This you can find on the Department Of Justice website,
November 2003, NCJ 198281. http://www.ojp.gov/bjs/pub/ascii/rsorp94.txt
Only 3.5% of new sex offences are committed by offender on the sex offender's registry. The remaining 96.5% are committed by unregistered citizens.
See how 3 year old children have been placed on the registry and how citizens are held indefinitely after teir sentence has been served.
See it now on You Tube at
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=evil9999999999999999
 
I think it's crual to think that nobody can change. They place these monitors on you, make you have to pay for it. And then think they have the right to to track you like a dog for the rest of your life. And then they don't want to help you with mental health help. They expect you to pay a fortune that you don't have and can't get, so the just leave you out there hanging in the wind, to figure it all out on your own.
 
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